Hermes Ties - Is It Worth It? Or Is A $180 Hermès Tie Too Expensive?

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In a world of iconic menswear, men's ties are certainly up there with the Burberry trench coat which by the way, you want to know if a Burberry trench coat is worth it or not , please check out this video here. Generally, you know you're doing something right even an entire industry is here to fake your products and that's the case with Hermès ties. Finding a used one is almost like a gamble if you don't know what to look for and stay tuned for another video where we discuss how you can identify a fake Hermes tie from a genuine one. For this video, we'll assume you buy one directly from Hermes so you know what you get is the real deal. In the US, Hermes ties have a price tag of a $180. In Europe, it's a little less. In Australia, it's a little more but overall, it's right around that price point.

So are Hermès ties worth it? Of course, the answer is it depends!

If you're someone who really likes printed whimsical motifs, these little animal prints then Hermès is definitely the way to go. Also, if you're looking for more unusual colors such as fuchsia ties or chartreuse green maybe some orange tones, Hermès will likely have a shade that you can get. Also, if you're a Wall Street banker or if you work in finance and you want to fit in with your company culture, an Hermès tie is certainly the way to do that. That being said, personally, I'm not a big fan of whimsical motifs on ties and I prefer different textures so Hermès ties are not the ideal tie for me. I have a bunch of them including vintage ones and new ones but frankly, I don't wear them a whole lot anymore. The ones I wear the most are probably the woven ties, they are somewhat simple and don't look like a typical Hermès tie. With many other luxury products, you pay a lot for the name but you get average to mediocre quality.

On the other hand with an Hermès tie, you certainly pay for the name but you also get a quality product. On top of that, genuine Hermès ties usually yield quite high prices even when they're used. Of course, they have to be in pristine condition which ties rarely are if you actually wear them and on top of that, you have to prove that it's actually a genuine product which can be very hard unless you have the specific receipt with a photo of the tie. Of course, if you give all the Hermès ties you don't want any longer to a store, they have to mark them up and ultimately, you don't get much for used Hermes ties anyways. Also if you're shorter than 6 foot or 183 centimeters, Hermes ties may be too long for you and all you can do is tie a really big knot which may often not work with your head size. Also if you're really a tall man and you want more variety in your ties, Hermès is not the right place for you.

I also think they're not worth buying used unless you know very well what you're doing, otherwise you may pay top dollar for what turns out to be a fake.

Personally, I also like ties to have different widths, my favorite width is about nine centimeters or three and a half inches, and it's not a niche served by Hermes at all.

Building up an entire Hermes tie collection can be rather expensive. If you buy 12 ties you're already down more than $2,000. Now they certainly use high quality materials including their silk but when I was looking for silks for our Fort Belvedere ties, I met Weavers who would actually produce jacquard woven silks for Hermes and we get ourselves from the same vendor at the same quality standards yet Fort Belvedere ties cost a lot less especially if you buy more and get the volume discount. Hermes on the other hand doesn't offer any volume discount.
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Nicholas Arden : I'm with you, Sven. I understand the high quality of Hermes, but for me, I find most of their prints in poor taste. They sure aren't worth $180 to me. I'd rather have one from Fort Belvedere over Hermes any day. I like that you compared a high end brand like Hermes to your own Fort Belvedere. Fort Belvedere is every bit as good, if not better, than any "luxury" brand.
Fei Li : I like how you give us historical lessons about brands you are talking about.
That shows dedication and it's what I expect from this channel.
Antonio Chafran : I buy one every year at the Hermès store. Totally aggree with you, they're limited, which is why I wouldn't build a collection out of them... but for what they do best, no one does it better. If you take, say, a Brooks Brothers tie with a similar style print, it's not even vaguely comparable. The quality and attention to detail are amazing. Also, I'm originally from Brazil and I didn't know they had silk farms there! Cool video.
M T : That pin stripe suit and tie is really sharp! I've never really thought about bigger lapels but they really say something about a man's character and style in addition to the tie knot. First time on this channel. RMRS has gotten to cliche and all the secrets are out. I'm liking your content and new info Sven. Thanks.
Justin Rubsam : Hello Gentlemen! Sven, I value what you do here and appreciate the effort you put into these videos. You and Preston have wonderful fashion sense and make a great team- I bet you also have a lot of fun making these videos!

So is it worth it? Great question. In my humble and personal opinion: No, and only under the pretense that the patterns don't at all appeal for the price AND that I'd be hard pressed to invest that sort of money on a tie of any type in lieu of something like another fine fur felt fedora.

How to Spot a Fake Hermes Tie & Hallmarks of Genuine Hermès Ties

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So, how can you distinguish a fake from a genuine Hermes tie?

It all starts with the Hermes box. The Hermes ties always come in the signature orange box never in a plastic bag. If you get the box, inspect it meticulously. First of all, it has the signature Hermes orange that fakers often get wrong. The logo in the Box is not super huge and measures just about 2.3 centimeters or just under an inch from the H to the S. Also, look at the font itself, the logo, as well as anything below it because fakers oftentimes get that wrong.

Also look at the edges of the orange paper on the inside. They cover the walls but not the bottom part and everything is very neat.

Now if you buy a used Hermes tie, it likely won't come in a box so let's take a look at the ties and what you have to pay attention to.

It's important to keep in mind that different Hermes ties such as the regular silk twill print or the heavy silk twill print, the scarf ties or the woven ties, can all have different hallmarks.

The first way to identify a fake is to look at the silk. Hermes silk printed ties are always 100% silk, never polyester or any blend. Also, Hermes prints all of the regular weight silk ties on the same kind of twill, so it's always the same.

The second step to identify a fake Hermes tie is to look at the direction of the twill. On the front side of the tie on the wider blade take a closer look at the twill pattern. It should always go from 11 to 5 o'clock. If it goes in any other direction it's a fake.

Three, now that your tie is still turned around, take a closer look at the tip lining color. Genuine Hermes ties usually have a color of the lining that matches the background color exactly. Fake Hermes ties often get that wrong and they have a solid black lining with H patterns on it.

Four, take a close look at the tie bar tacks. These are these little sewing things on either end of the fold that keep the tie from unfolding. For printed Hermes twill ties, these little tie tacks are usually in a color very close to the background color of the silk. On the other hand, fake Hermes ties usually use just a black color and their tacks are also much thicker.

The fifth step in identifying a genuine Hermes tie is to look at the dovetail fold. By that I mean you turn the tie around, you look at the front plate and open the folds in the back. Look underneath of it and you will see a dovetail fold that is a hallmark of all Hermes ties.

Six, look for the slip stitch. All Hermes ties are hand sewn with a thread that is a hundred and seventy seven meters long.

Seven, find the loop thread. Because ties can stretch and they are made out of different layers you need a thread that has a reserve and that reserve in Hermes ties is in the loop.

Eight, take a closer look at the horse carriage Hermes logo on the slimmer blade of the tie. On regular silk twill ties, you will always find this Hermes stamp on the front side of the slim blade. On a tie, it should say Hermes Paris all in caps and have a copyright symbol.

Nine, look at the pattern mark. All printed Hermes ties in twill have a pattern mark to identify the designer and the design number. It's rectangular and it aligns with the edge fold of the tie. The top line should read made in France, all in caps, Sans Serif. The middle line should have a pattern number followed by the initials of the Artist. Those are in a serif font.

Tenth way to identify a genuine Hermes tie is to take a look at the tie keeper. By that, I mean that little woven label in the back of Hermes ties that you can use to stick the slimmer and the tie through. Unlike many other ties including the ones from Fort Belvedere, the keeper loop in Hermes is not made out of the tie silk but it's a simple woven label that is much slimmer.
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Bratpfann db : Every time I see Sven my day is saved
Michael Patterson : Please do more of these videos on how to spot fakes. This has been very helpful.
Jon Durak : Hermes lost me back when i looked on their website only to find a $35k purse made from lambskin with palladium PLATED hardware... for 35k it should be genuine giraffe hide with solid iridium hardware.. shits just overpriced in general. Their ties are top notch though.
Waltski : An ultra in-depth video, well done.

However, if it takes a video of this length and depth to discern a genuine Hermès tie, I will simply purchase some other brand. The same logic applies for Mont Blanc fountain pens, as counterfeit pens abound on eBay as well.
Adau Chan : Raphael, thanks for including centimeters (cm) in your video. Your videos are very informative and enjoyable to watch.

How to Tie a Tie: Four-in-hand knot (Hermes tie)

A step-by-step tutorial on how to tie a tie (a four-in-hand knot to be precise) using an Hermes tie. The four-in-hand suits every occasion and is as simple to tie as it is elegant. It is, in my opinion, the far most elegant knot and I would say that it is the only knot one would need.

Hermes ties are perfect to use for the four-in-hand. The fabric makes it possible to have a very tight knot and it barely takes any effort to make a dimple. The dimple is not for everyone but I could not see myself tying a tie without it - it is such a little feature to add but it show that you have put some effort in making yourself presentable.

The easy steps the tie a Four-in-hand knot:

1. Place the tie on your shoulders, both sides facing up. The wide end of the tie should be placed on your right shoulder and the narrow end on your left.
2. Cross the wide end over the narrow end.
3. Wrap the wide end around the narrow end so that it creates a loop/tie knot.
4. Pull the wide end up through the neck loop.
5. Pull the wide end down through the tie knot.
6. Adjust for a dimple.
7. Tighten the knot. Make sure to pull tight - the tighter the better.

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Erik Torell : Your video was the only video that showed that you didn't go through both loops but rather only the one front loop. I was going insane, I can tie complex rigging knots but couldn't tie a tie. Thank you for that.
Ocean le : wow - that tie goes great with the jacket!
Ocean le : that is such a cute tie!!!
Arseniy Testin : This is the least flattering knot possible, asymmetrical, strangled and for narrow collars only. Although it "suits" the rather narrow Hermeses, any knowledgeable person will immediately recognize and rate it 2 out of 10. I wore it in my youth, and several people were kind enough to take me to the side and point out the dissonance between a gorgeous Hermes and the rock bottom "schioppino" knot. Noblesse oblige, Hermes calls for higher tier knots.
Walter Romano : Why didn’t you show up how to do a dimple ?

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